[Raymo]

The Spirit of the Games... This is very Important!
Tweaks are allowed, FSB, Multi, Htt, Memory,Voltage, VGA Bus & Mem... ect
Cheats are not, Ram drives, no on-the-fly affinity modifications, modifing Drivers ect
Note... not all has been mentioned here, just keep in mind "The Spirit of the Games"
Penelties for violating this will be harsh.


Winter Warz and Summer Wars have been created....
Summer Wars will have seperate "Ultra Extreme Class"
for all the super cooled Rigs and Newer ES chips..



This will be Winter Warz 2008....

Winter Warz Dates......
2 weeks for prelim (stock) testing. (Feb 29th thru March14th)
1 week to choose rosters and team names. (March 15th thru March 21st)
4 weeks to OC for the Warz. (March 22nd thru April 19th)
All deadlines are on 11:59 CST US & Mexico


The Bench's......
Geekbench, 3d01, 3d03, 3d06, SuperPi 1mb (v1.5)
Scoring will be adjusted so that the max for each test is 70,000 or so...
(you dont have to redo all your tests to post an updated Score)


Scoring.....
Bench scores will be weighted so a high-end rig with conventional cooling will earn a FWs overclocked score of roughly 70,000 on each bench. Highly tweaked or UE rigs may exceed 70,000 points."
3D01... True Score
3D03... True Score
3D06... 4 Times actual Score
Geekbench... 10 times actual Score
Super Pi.... Weighted to a max 80,000 = 8 seconds
All Added up for a Warz Score
The "A Teams" play against all "A Teams"
The "B TEams" play against all "B Teams"
and so forth...


The Rules......
One system per player, unless the forum is short on the 20 player target.
Then and second system by each player can be added to fill out the rosters (only 1 system can be on the A Team)
The 2nd Rig must have a different CPU and Reduced VGA.
Reduced VGA means if you use SLI, you cannot use the same set up on your 2nd Rig, you can only use 1 card.
But if you have a lesser set of VGA cards... thats OK!
Standard HDD performance tuning (like RAID) on ATA, SATA, SATA II are ok. No limit on # of HDD's.
Ram or Virtual Drives are not allowed.
Acceptable Operating Systems: Windows 2000, XP, Server 2003 or Vista and all variants of each (32-bit/64-bit, home/pro/ultimate, etc.)
Acceptable Drivers: ALL (No driver limitation)
Acceptable Hardware: All (except unreleased ES chips and similar)
NO UPGRADES after March 14th, None... Period! (But RMA's are ok, subject to validation for the same hardware).
Forum Police can deny any posted score if not properly submitted
The Forum Wars Judges will vote on All Questionable scores
The "Forum Wars Admin" Forum is where the forum police will post a poll and discuss scores and rule clarifications.
This forum will be password protected.
All Forum Police will be registered in our Database and all scores will be entered into the database
then transferred to our spreadsheet. Then tabulated and posted on the TRP website (usually twice a week).
***No Unreleased hardware may be used in Team Scoring...
All released Hardware IE: motherboard, CPU,Memory & Video Card must be available in the retail sector before March 10th.
Compliance may consist of showing that an e-retailer lists the part as available or through provision of an invoice showing
purchase on or before March 12th. (allowing 2 days for mail) Posting Deadline March 14th
E Samples that are released before February 29th are allowed.


Ultra Cooling..... (only 4 UC Rigs total per forum)
Ultra cooled Rigs will be allowed on the A & B Teams only
No more than 2 UC sli/cf (A Team Only)
No more than 2 UC quad (A Team Only)
No more than 4 UC overall
Ultra cooled is defined as: Vapo, Dry Ice, Liquid Nitrogen and Cascades


Participating Forums......
Each Forum must provide their own Forum Police (2 to 5 is preferred)
All cops will have access to "Forum Wars Admin" and the Database for Score entries
If a Forum has no forum cops they will be required to post at The Raptor Pit on the Scoring thread.
Participating Forums need to create 3 threads
A discussions thread that I can link to from the main site for checking each other out and taunting
A closed "Forum Wars 2007 Entry" thread (not hidden) (where all scores will be posted)
An "Forum player entry thread" to Recruit Players and Cops
And of coarse... a passworded private forum for your players only.
Forums that wish NOT to Field an A Team will be required to have AT LEAST a B team


Teams and Catagories......
A thru E Teams...4 players per team (5 teams count toward the Overall) 20 players
no limit on Quad placement (but higher team placement is reccomended)
F,G and other Teams do not count towards the "Overall"
Meaning... if you have more than 20 players, the rest can still play.
Ultra cooled Rigs will be allowed on the A & B Teams only
The slacker class wil be used for all the late entries and do not count toward the overall
The Slacker class is unlimited... Anything Goes!!!
The preferred Roster is to have your best players on the "A Team", second best on the "B Team" and so forth.
Ultimately you can build your rosters as you wish.


Overall Scoring......
Forum final rankings from the A thru E teams are added up and the lowest total wins the overall
Tiebreakers are fewest # of penryns, quads & SLI/CF rigs, Forum players then coinflip


Bonus Points.......
When a forum (at the end of the wars) has their highest scores on their A Team, they will recieve 1 ranking point
When their B team has the second best score, they get another ranking point
When their C team has the 3rd best score, they get 1 last ranking point. (3 bonus points Max)
This will only effect forums with a full or mostly full complement of players (20)
The bonus ranking points are totaled then deducted from the forums overall score.
As you already know... the lowest ranking wins the overall and 2 or 3 deductions can mean alot.
So most of the larger forums will comply by putting their best players on the A, hopefully their second best on B and maybe
play around with the rest of their players for best position with in the remaining teams. or stick it out and make their C
team their third best either by design or by accident....
Teams that wish NOT to Field an "A Team" will be required to have a "B Team" and are NOT eligable for the Ranking
bonuses.....
Forums can place a team in any class, but have a much less chance of winning the overall

The Judges:
Coolcase (ASUS Independent)
Rtyrie1 (PC Pitstop)
Meltdown (Xtreme CPU)
Deanzo (OC Forums)
Luis GT (The Raptor Pit)
Jammin (OverClockers Club)
Raymo (The Raptor Pit) Tie breaker vote
FWs08 judges can participate as a player like anyone else in their forum, but if there is an issue involving them personally or a member of their forum, they are not allowed to vote as a judge.



These rules will not be modified in any form.
Any concern about the wording on specific issues will be voted on by the Forum Warz Judges.
The polling outcome will be final and not be disputed.
Any additions or clarifications approved by the administration will be added separately to the rules as ammendments, with no alteration to the original wording of these rules.


*** Disclaimer***
TRP (The Raptor Pit) will not be responsable for any damaged, broken, bent or burned hardware as a result of Overclocking a Personal Computer. Any Player that Overclocks his/her PC... does so at their own risk and will not hold (TRP) responsable... If you enter (by posting a score) then you accept this agreement.

[Saunders]

Just to clarify if it turns out that you have two rigs in the competition you are allowed to run one rig in SLI with Nvidia chipset say 8800's and the other rig could be a crossfire with ATI chipsets say 2900's. Is that correct? Awsome job guys it's nice to get it locked down so early.

[Raymo]

Just to clarify if it turns out that you have two rigs in the competition you are allowed to run one rig in SLI with Nvidia chipset say 8800's and the other rig could be a crossfire with ATI chipsets say 2900's. Is that correct? Awsome job guys it's nice to get it locked down so early.

One system per player, unless the forum is short on the 20 player target.
Then and second system by each player can be added to fill out the rosters (only 1 system can be on the A Team)
The 2nd Rig must have a different CPU and Reduced VGA.
Reduced VGA means if you use SLI, you cannot use the same set up on your 2nd Rig, you can only use 1 card.
But if you have a lesser set of VGA cards...
using a different set of sli cards might have to be clarified by the judges

[MeltDown]

Good point Raymo, if you had say a set of Crossfired 2900XTs and a set of SLI'd 8800GTXs, which one do you define to be "lesser" since the GTXs will win 3d01 and 03 but the 2900s will take 06? I guess you could also have this same problem with two single card systems with similar GPUs. If you have SLI 8800GTXs and 7800GTs then it's an easy call.

[Saunders]

Ok this is a real possibility as I'm looking at building another machine only going crossfire this time. I'm looking at the 6850 cpu. Last war we wern't able to post 20 machine so there's a fairly high probability that we may get to enter two machines. I'd like to ask the judges tto formally rule on two machines different CPUs and MBs one with Crossfire 2900's and one with SLI 8800's

Not trying to be a pain just looking for a clarification before I spend money.

[Raymo]

understood...

[Raymo]

Problem solved... it's ok to use that set up...


Anybody that can write a different language...

if you have the time, can you translate as best you can the rules so I can post it in different countries.

[Merc]

I like the rules guys. Very well done. Having been involved in the early go-rounds I know how tough it was to hash these out. I don't think we'll hit 20 players either so two rigs is almost a given at AI. With that in mind I currently have a Q6600 and XFX 8800GTX XXX on a P35. If I plugged an E6600 in there and ran my 8800GTX XXX at 8800GTX stock speeds (foregoing any overclock) would that count as a second system?

Once again, well done on the rules.

[Raymo]

Yep...


And thx Merc...
We got some great judges..
Plus your input was very helpful too

[rtyrie1]

Yep...
...

Ray, I think you may have misread that one.

Merc, it needs to be a lesser VGA card, what you are describing would in fact be the same VGA card, the rules require a lesser card. That setup would be a nogo regardless of what clock you run it at.

[Saunders]

Good deal on nailing the rules down thanks for the ruling on running both SLI and Crossfire appreciate it seeing as I had ordered the stuff on faith

[Raymo]

My bad....

Rtyrie1 is absolutely right
got to be a different card or number of cards in your 2nd set up

[Merc]

Awww, I quit then. That is what I figured, and what I would have said as well, but thought I'd ask as the question will surely come up again. The more of these little questions we can deal with now, the easier it will be to run the War.

Honestly, let's all ask these little detail questions that always come up now, so that when the war starts we will have judgments in writing already. Invariably there will be some big issues during the competition and the more of minutiae we deal with now, the better, as it will leave the officials some slack to deal with the important stuff when time is at a premium.

Guess an 8800GT is on my shopping list now.

[caintry_boy]

Classes for different chips? Like my 6600ES?

[Raymo]

Classes for different chips? Like my 6600ES?

fair game...

***No Unreleased hardware may be used in Team Scoring...
All released Hardware IE: motherboard, CPU,Memory & Video Card must be available in the retail sector before March 10th.
Compliance may consist of showing that an e-retailer lists the part as available or through provision of an invoice showing
purchase on or before March 12th. (allowing 2 days for mail) Posting Deadline March 14th

[caintry_boy]

fair game...

[Saunders]

fair game...

Does that address the ES issue, I don't see it impacting me but I wouldn't what to see a repeat of what happened to Chefnr1 in the last war. Does an E6600ES equate to an E6600?

[Deanzo]

Does that address the ES issue, I don't see it impacting me but I wouldn't what to see a repeat of what happened to Chefnr1 in the last war. Does an E6600ES equate to an E6600?

Yes,

If a CPU has gone retail, the ES can be used... no if's, no but's

[Saunders]

Yes,

If a CPU has gone retail, the ES can be used... no if's, no but's

Thanks Deanzo that's clearly stated

[Neo_PR]

If you still need to translate this i can do Spanish.

PM me to let me know.