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OC Advice for Q6600 with TPOWER I45

#1 User is offline   skz 

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Posted 05 October 2009 - 06:14 PM

Hi all,

I'm getting a I45 board in soon, and I'm going to be putting in my Q6600 (G0 with 1.2500 VID) into it. It's running stable at 3.0GHz on stock volts on a GA-P35-DS3L right now. I'm looking to get at least 3.2GHz but would like to try to hit 3.6GHz with it. My first plan would be to try setting the FSB to 400MHz and using the multipliers, so I've got a few questions:

1) Is it worth pulling off the NB/SB heatsinks and replacing the TIM if I'm using 400FSB? I read earlier in the thread that it wasn't necessary, and if it isn't, should I be using the additional fan that comes with it?

2) What kind of voltage should I be looking to add to the NB/SB and FSB? I saw that Inteller (over in his thread) had 1.344v for NB/SB and 1.408v for FSB, but that was at 464MHz FSB. I presume that I'll need less voltage?

3) How high should I be setting my skew settings? Inteller had his at 400ps for CPU Clock Skew Control, 500ps for (G)MCH Clock Skew Control and 1000mV for CPU Clock Driving Control...again I assume that I'm going to be needing less?

I understand that these settings are obviously going to be different for each case, but any ballpark figures (or any figures at all!) to get me going in the right direction would be really appreciated!

Thanks in advance! smile.gif
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Posted 05 October 2009 - 06:16 PM

I hope you didn't think I was being rude! Did not mean to be! I just think you'll get better and more help this way!

Best of luck to you!
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Posted 05 October 2009 - 06:16 PM

Nope, not at all, you're probably right! smile.gif
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Posted 05 October 2009 - 06:25 PM

QUOTE(skz @ Oct 5 2009, 08:14 PM) View Post
Hi all,

I'm getting a I45 board in soon, and I'm going to be putting in my Q6600 (G0 with 1.2500 VID) into it. It's running stable at 3.0GHz on stock volts on a GA-P35-DS3L right now. I'm looking to get at least 3.2GHz but would like to try to hit 3.6GHz with it. My first plan would be to try setting the FSB to 400MHz and using the multipliers, so I've got a few questions:

1) Is it worth pulling off the NB/SB heatsinks and replacing the TIM if I'm using 400FSB? I read earlier in the thread that it wasn't necessary, and if it isn't, should I be using the additional fan that comes with it?

2) What kind of voltage should I be looking to add to the NB/SB and FSB? I saw that Inteller (over in his thread) had 1.344v for NB/SB and 1.408v for FSB, but that was at 464MHz FSB. I presume that I'll need less voltage?

3) How high should I be setting my skew settings? Inteller had his at 400ps for CPU Clock Skew Control, 500ps for (G)MCH Clock Skew Control and 1000mV for CPU Clock Driving Control...again I assume that I'm going to be needing less?

I understand that these settings are obviously going to be different for each case, but any ballpark figures (or any figures at all!) to get me going in the right direction would be really appreciated!

Thanks in advance! smile.gif

I'd start by reading thru this thread:

XS BIOSTAR I45 THREAD

There's lots of stuff in there.
The I45 has been known to blow a mosfet or two whilst running Quads, and especially if they are earlier models. It would probably be worth your while to R&R the PWM heatsink and apply a non-conductive-non-capacitive thermal compound such as MX2 or CERAMIQUE. Go ahead and stick the fan on it. I've not noticed much difference in PWM temps with or without it on either of mine. The reason I don't have one installed now is because mine started making noise. I just pulled it off and went without.
Skew and Performance Controls will vary from board to board to board, CPU to CPU, etc.
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Posted 05 October 2009 - 06:32 PM

Oh, I've been reading through that XS thread for a few days now, tons of information in there alright!

I have some OCZ Freeze which is non-conductive, will that work? Also, I've seen pictures of people removing the PWM heatsink, and it came with a thermal pad instead of using paste...will it be OK to use the paste straight onto the mosfet, or should I be trying to save the thermal pad it comes with?

I've read that the fan that comes with the board dies pretty quickly, so I'll probably just skip it altogether.
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Posted 05 October 2009 - 07:16 PM

you should be able to to hit 3.6 stable for sure.

my Q6600 is a vID of 1.325 and i hit 4.0 not stable though. most stable i was able to hit was 3.6, you could probably hit 3.8 stable with that and probably post at 4.1-4.2
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Posted 05 October 2009 - 07:21 PM

QUOTE(skz @ Oct 5 2009, 08:32 PM) View Post
Oh, I've been reading through that XS thread for a few days now, tons of information in there alright!

I have some OCZ Freeze which is non-conductive, will that work? Also, I've seen pictures of people removing the PWM heatsink, and it came with a thermal pad instead of using paste...will it be OK to use the paste straight onto the mosfet, or should I be trying to save the thermal pad it comes with?

I've read that the fan that comes with the board dies pretty quickly, so I'll probably just skip it altogether.

TIM needs to be non-conductive and non-capacitive, just to be on the safe side. Check the specs.
Non-capacitive eliminates even the possibility of the component picking up a zap of static electricity.
Save the thermal pads in case you ever need to RMA the board. I just stick 'em in a little plastique envelope and keep 'em in the box.
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Posted 05 October 2009 - 07:24 PM

@BigJoe5434: I sure hope so!

I just checked, OCZ Freeze is both non-conductive and non-capacitive, so I think it'll be good to use for it. I've read that thermal pads are used because the mosfets are probably not all the same height...is that the case with the I45/will it be an issue if I use TIM instead?
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Posted 05 October 2009 - 07:43 PM

QUOTE(skz @ Oct 5 2009, 09:24 PM) View Post
@BigJoe5434: I sure hope so!

I just checked, OCZ Freeze is both non-conductive and non-capacitive, so I think it'll be good to use for it. I've read that thermal pads are used because the mosfets are probably not all the same height...is that the case with the I45/will it be an issue if I use TIM instead?

That, plus it also cuts down on production time.
Just take a straight edge and lay it across the tops and see.
Look at the bolt mods in the I45 thread.
That's one way of doing it.
What I usually do is add a nylon washer to the spring pins that retain the heatsinks. That seems to "mash" them down good enough for me.
You can lap the heatsinks if you want. We have some lap info over in our stickies.
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Posted 05 October 2009 - 08:33 PM

The board won't need much to make it to 400FSB. Perhaps a step up or two in voltage, but not much. Your biggest worry will be the PWM. Keep those temps down and don't push Vcore too much and you should be ok. 3.2GHz shouldn't be a problem for you.

You shouldn't need any additional SB voltage, especially for 400.

The only skew you will need is the CPU clock skew. 200ps or 300ps is all that's needed. See if you can keep CPU driving control down; use it to finalize stability and/or to see if you can lower Vcore a hair.
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Posted 05 October 2009 - 08:59 PM

Yeah.
I'm using 200ps with this E7300 @ 400 but I never needed to alter that setting at 400 when I was using an E8600 on my first I45. BIOSTAR says 200ps is a good all around setting. I think I may have dropped it to 300ps when I was up at and past 4700mhz. Real time DRAM Performance Configs never helped me but I saw where those helped many. More than likely VCore will be what's needed with that Q6600 in order to really speed it up.
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Posted 05 October 2009 - 09:24 PM

See!

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Posted 05 October 2009 - 09:24 PM

Great, thanks for the info (both of you)! I'll try for 3.2 first then try to move up to 3.6 depending on the temps I get at 3.2. I have a Xigmatek HDT-S1283, so temps should be decent at least.

I think the board will be here by Wednesday or Thursday, so hopefully I'll have it up and running by Thursday at the latest. I'll have to decide about playing with the mosfets...never quite done that before!

Thanks again for the info!
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Posted 05 October 2009 - 09:28 PM

I took some pictures of what it looks like on, with my cpu cooler attached in the thread that I was working on! Also there are some pictures of the overclocking page in the bios.
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Posted 05 October 2009 - 09:30 PM

Bios pic's here

Board pic's here
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Posted 05 October 2009 - 09:39 PM

Great, those are helpful, especially the BIOS pictures. Did you do anything with the NB/PWM heatsink and SB heatsinks?
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Posted 05 October 2009 - 09:43 PM

Nope, just removed the name plate, and attached the add on heatsink kit with some MX-3, it just attaches with 2 screws! I didn't have any heat issues!
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Posted 05 October 2009 - 09:46 PM

I did read some posts (in other forums) where people did remove them and re-seat them, But I was advised that it would be, most likely, not necessary! So I did nothing but attach the add on heatsink.
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Posted 05 October 2009 - 09:48 PM

Both chuck & hokiealumnus have been using this board for a while now, and I would consider them as experts, in there advise! Well, in most everything!
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Posted 06 October 2009 - 05:43 AM

Hm, alright, I'll see if I can do without messing with the heatsinks if possible...I'll still probably pass on the fan if I can, given what I've read about it (loud, dies easily).
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